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Post by eeeeetrain on Feb 6, 2019 15:01:46 GMT -5
I went to MoPop last year. The lineup was amazing, but the festival itself was really rough. It's in a park that has been left to die by the city. Literally no grass is left, just weeds and dirt. This results in a dustbowl or a mud pit depending on the weather. Also, there are only 2 stages and no overlap, which sounds good in theory of being able to see all the acts, but means the entire crowd is in the same place at all times. There's also not much production budget (large screens and such) so you can't see anything if you're far back, and the younger kids are super aggressive about getting to the front with no regard for anyone else. Oh and Detroit is a nightmare city. It will hopefully be good in 10 to 20 years. I'm from Cleveland so I've seen the development happen here, but they've got some time to go. Also with no way to escape the heat and no re-entry, we ended up leaving before the headliners both days. Typical words from someone from O*io. MoPop has grown a lot. I am always one to stay in the back away form the crowds and I have never had an issue with seeing or hearing. I love that I can put a blanket down and post up all day with or group. If you are looking for a big festival, clearly MoPop isn’t it, but if you are looking for solid acts, not missing a show due to overlapping, and a comfortable environment, MoPop is it. Every festival has a dust or mud problem,you adjust. Should we bring up InCuya Cleveland had last year? It was good in theory but ticket sales were very low, the two stages idea was good in theory but you had to walk up/down hill with the masse, and Cleveland is Cleveland. Yeah incuya was bad too. I'm allowed to not like MoPop dude. |
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Post by acm389 on Feb 10, 2019 11:26:33 GMT -5
Selling two VIP tickets if anyone interested 750 total. Over 200 bucks cheaper than what they cost now.. had the blink 182 and early bee discount stacked.. have pics and info if u interested in VIP tickets from when I did it last year.
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Post by sterny331 on Feb 10, 2019 13:16:27 GMT -5
Whitney did you get any info from your source? Doubt they plan on adding anything but maybe he would know? Honestly I bet ticket sales are trash right now so they may consider adding another headliner.
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Post by whitneyhouston on Feb 11, 2019 9:16:01 GMT -5
I saw my source this weekend and got a little info:
1) There REALLY WAS a goal of getting more female presence this year but they "had a really hard time getting acts that were available" - I find this kind of hard to believe especially since they knew it was a goal and they failed miserably at the goal.
2) In regards to my source giving the laugh/cry emoji when I asked if the leak was 100% accurate and they said "no"...this is exactly what I thought they would say... they said something along the lines of a misspelled name or the names being out of order.
3) Greta Van Fleet was originally planned to be in the Post Malone spot (playing 8:30-9:30) but they moved them up because of blink-182 backing out
4) The 1975 had been planned for a few months...which still doesn't make any sense
5) They would not comment on ticket sales, but mentioned they feel marketing will help drive ticket sales. I think this is a corporate way of saying that they have to STRONGLY market the lineup if they expect to sell a lot of tickets.
6) While I was not able to get specifics, there was a budget cut on the festival and "a few" acts were swapped with lower priced artists. Based on how the conversation went, it felt like they were acts that I would've really liked since they would not give me specific names.
and the question you have all been waiting for...
7) Will there be a headliner added since blink-182 backed out? ..... "as of now, there are no plans to add a headlining artist to the lineup"
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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2019 10:04:03 GMT -5
So first they say that AEG was going to be adding to the budget, now they say there was a budget cut? I guess this is the last year for Bunbury after all.
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Post by whitneyhouston on Feb 11, 2019 10:05:22 GMT -5
So first they say that AEG was going to be adding to the budget, now they say there was a budget cut? I guess this is the last year for Bunbury after all. ...I got the feeling that this was the AEG way to telling Bunbury it's over |
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Post by funkymoses17 on Feb 11, 2019 10:11:07 GMT -5
Definitely feels like they did a budget cut when they saw artists that were likely available (at least headliners) and wanted to spend less and net more of a profit (especially after the sale to AEG of PW) for the year. I dunno, that doesn't seem like a good idea now that your direct (claimed indirect) rivals are putting out good lineups in comparison.
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Post by funkymoses17 on Feb 11, 2019 10:12:57 GMT -5
So first they say that AEG was going to be adding to the budget, now they say there was a budget cut? I guess this is the last year for Bunbury after all. ...I got the feeling that this was the AEG way to telling Bunbury it's over Now I'm starting to wonder how much behind the scenes are they talking about making a festival in Columbus and perhaps allocating resources being spent on Bunbury towards that instead. Would still be a few years away though. |
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Post by sterny331 on Feb 11, 2019 10:25:55 GMT -5
Selling two VIP tickets if anyone interested 750 total. Over 200 bucks cheaper than what they cost now.. had the blink 182 and early bee discount stacked.. have pics and info if u interested in VIP tickets from when I did it last year. i may scoop them if they are cheap enough. shoot me a text. 9202842496 |
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Post by kanyeismydad on Feb 11, 2019 12:37:15 GMT -5
So CSO, the owner of Riverbend and Taft, absolutely destroyed Promowest this year... This is now Beck, Cage the Elephant, Vampire Weekend and Bon Iver (I'm sure there's lots more) that CSO has snagged to play local venues over Bunbury. If they could have secured two of any of these, then I would be at bunbury this year.
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Post by k1wall on Feb 11, 2019 14:14:37 GMT -5
So first they say that AEG was going to be adding to the budget, now they say there was a budget cut? I guess this is the last year for Bunbury after all. ...I got the feeling that this was the AEG way to telling Bunbury it's over Yikes, that's super disheartening. I hope there's a chance they can sell the festival to someone else. And not like a Lloyd Christmas chance. |
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Post by chetguy on Feb 11, 2019 14:45:46 GMT -5
So CSO, the owner of Riverbend and Taft, absolutely destroyed Promowest this year... This is now Beck, Cage the Elephant, Vampire Weekend and Bon Iver (I'm sure there's lots more) that CSO has snagged to play local venues over Bunbury. If they could have secured two of any of these, then I would be at bunbury this year. CSO is absolutely blowing them out of the water. They even have Jeff Tweedy coming to the music hall ballroom |
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Post by mcnasty on Feb 11, 2019 15:03:56 GMT -5
So first they say that AEG was going to be adding to the budget, now they say there was a budget cut? I guess this is the last year for Bunbury after all. ...I got the feeling that this was the AEG way to telling Bunbury it's over Oh man, that's really, really sad. But the writing is on the wall. The fact that they aren't even searching for an artist to take the Blink spot is a big tell. All things considered, this should have been the best lineup in the festival's history, coming off of a sellout and with the support of a music festival titan. But the lineup they went with says it all. |
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Post by chetguy on Feb 11, 2019 15:14:04 GMT -5
So first they say that AEG was going to be adding to the budget, now they say there was a budget cut? I guess this is the last year for Bunbury after all. ...I got the feeling that this was the AEG way to telling Bunbury it's over Whatever happens I hope someone can do something in Cincinnati. When Promowest was booking solid acts this festival was the best part about the summer. Hell of a run from 2015 to 2018 for a smaller festival. |
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Post by funkymoses17 on Feb 11, 2019 16:36:25 GMT -5
Pretty brutal that the CincyMusic newsletter is promoting "Take a road trip to Forecastle" haha
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Post by chetguy on Feb 11, 2019 16:39:37 GMT -5
Pretty brutal that the CincyMusic newsletter is promoting "Take a road trip to Forecastle" haha I thought that too lol |
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Post by cincinnatisound on Feb 11, 2019 18:49:42 GMT -5
So CSO, the owner of Riverbend and Taft, absolutely destroyed Promowest this year... This is now Beck, Cage the Elephant, Vampire Weekend and Bon Iver (I'm sure there's lots more) that CSO has snagged to play local venues over Bunbury. If they could have secured two of any of these, then I would be at bunbury this year. CSO is absolutely blowing them out of the water. They even have Jeff Tweedy coming to the music hall ballroom If it’s just Jeff Tweedy and his acoustic guitar, that’s a hard pass from me. I saw him solo in Montana at a festival and it was the most boring, uninspired set I’ve ever seen. |
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Post by xublue on Feb 12, 2019 21:41:07 GMT -5
So which band this year mysteriously disappears from the final lineup without a word ever being mentioned? The more I look at this, especially compared to Forecastle, the more disappointed I get.
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Post by rascalmj on Feb 12, 2019 22:31:35 GMT -5
So which band this year mysteriously disappears from the final lineup without a word ever being mentioned? The more I look at this, especially compared to Forecastle, the more disappointed I get. Joywave |
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Post by chetguy on Feb 12, 2019 22:43:07 GMT -5
CSO is absolutely blowing them out of the water. They even have Jeff Tweedy coming to the music hall ballroom If it’s just Jeff Tweedy and his acoustic guitar, that’s a hard pass from me. I saw him solo in Montana at a festival and it was the most boring, uninspired set I’ve ever seen. I absolutely love Wilco and Jeff Tweedy and haven’t been able to see either, so I’m biased but I’m absolutely trying to go to this one |
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Post by cincythemode on Feb 13, 2019 7:44:34 GMT -5
I saw my source this weekend and got a little info: 7) Will there be a headliner added since blink-182 backed out? ..... "as of now, there are no plans to add a headlining artist to the lineup" If we want to be optimistic, adding an artist to the second line would not be a "headlining" artist. So maybe we still get an addition. I just can't see NF or MGK closing down the Sawyer Point stage. Also, Pollstar noted the following back in September with the AEG acquisition: "The three-day Bunbury festival was purchased by PromoWest in 2014 and, this year, reported a $4.2 million gross on 60,000 tickets sold, with artists including Post Malone, Jack White, Chainsmokers and Incubus over three days. That was substantial growth over last year’s event, also at Sawyer Point, that reported $2.95 million on 46,000 also over three days." www.pollstar.com/article/aeg-presents-acquires-promowest-productions-136391A 30% year-over-year increase in gross revenue and yet they allegedly had a budget cut? Makes no sense. |
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Post by whitneyhouston on Feb 13, 2019 8:34:48 GMT -5
I saw my source this weekend and got a little info: 7) Will there be a headliner added since blink-182 backed out? ..... "as of now, there are no plans to add a headlining artist to the lineup" If we want to be optimistic, adding an artist to the second line would not be a "headlining" artist. So maybe we still get an addition. I just can't see NF or MGK closing down the Sawyer Point stage. Also, Pollstar noted the following back in September with the AEG acquisition: "The three-day Bunbury festival was purchased by PromoWest in 2014 and, this year, reported a $4.2 million gross on 60,000 tickets sold, with artists including Post Malone, Jack White, Chainsmokers and Incubus over three days. That was substantial growth over last year’s event, also at Sawyer Point, that reported $2.95 million on 46,000 also over three days." www.pollstar.com/article/aeg-presents-acquires-promowest-productions-136391A 30% year-over-year increase in gross revenue and yet they allegedly had a budget cut? Makes no sense. Yeah I thought it was pretty strange when I heard that. Here are my thoughts of what might be going on: 1) AEG wants to kill Bunbury and they really did have a budget cut 2) It was just an off year and they were unable to book the type of acts that they wanted 3) ...AEG and Promowest think it's a good lineup... |
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Post by bboy2112 on Feb 14, 2019 11:12:14 GMT -5
if anybody on this thread is acutally going this year besides me, you should check out The Candescents. I saw them open for Pale Waves and they really put a lot of energy into their shows.
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Post by notaguest on Feb 14, 2019 12:01:58 GMT -5
I saw my source this weekend and got a little info: 6) While I was not able to get specifics, there was a budget cut on the festival and "a few" acts were swapped with lower priced artists. Based on how the conversation went, it felt like they were acts that I would've really liked since they would not give me specific names. and the question you have all been waiting for... 7) Will there be a headliner added since blink-182 backed out? ..... "as of now, there are no plans to add a headlining artist to the lineup" I think some of the cuts has to do with the discount they gave out. I have absolutely no basis for these projections, but 500 VIP and 4000 GA tickets sold under the BUZZ discount would equate to $140,000 in reduced revenue. Again, I don't know what level of ticket sales are done at that early level, but that sounds like the difference between a real headliner and what we got. |
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Post by mcnasty on Feb 14, 2019 21:14:47 GMT -5
Worth mentioning that Festive Owl reports Bonnaroo sales are way up this year, outpacing sales from the past three years. Forecastle sales appear to be up as well.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2019 16:34:56 GMT -5
How would Festive Owl know that?
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Post by mcnasty on Feb 15, 2019 17:08:17 GMT -5
How would Festive Owl know that? I assume because Tier 4 at Bonnaroo is nearly sold out and that is way ahead of previous years. I should clarify the Forecastle comment is my personal speculation.Their first tier of three day passes were snagged up within 12 hours of going on sale. There's been a lot of positivity on social media regarding the Forecastle lineup. All you have to do is look at the Forecastle Reddit vs the Bunbury one. The Forecastle sub is full of people who are going for the first time or looking are looking for people to meet up/go with. Bunbury is mostly filled with people selling three day passes below face value. I wish nothing but the best for Bunbury, but that is not a good sign. |
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Post by funkymoses17 on Feb 16, 2019 13:46:43 GMT -5
Festival Owl definitely knows his shit when it comes to Festivals. Always been pretty hip to Bonnaroo stuff ahead of time or behind the scenes. Also very knowledgeable with Bassnecter stuff it seems. Forecastle is going to be fantastic. I love Bunbury but they just really laid an egg with that lineup. The undercard would have saved it for sure but they went cheap and weird with it when there were a million great acts they could have gotten. The names we were speculating were all very reasonable and should have been considered at least.
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Post by mcnasty on Feb 17, 2019 0:29:09 GMT -5
Festival Owl definitely knows his shit when it comes to Festivals. Always been pretty hip to Bonnaroo stuff ahead of time or behind the scenes. Also very knowledgeable with Bassnecter stuff it seems. Forecastle is going to be fantastic. I love Bunbury but they just really laid an egg with that lineup. The undercard would have saved it for sure but they went cheap and weird with it when there were a million great acts they could have gotten. The names we were speculating were all very reasonable and should have been considered at least. Exactly. There are a lot of great undercard acts that are similar to last year's alt/indie rock theme and they just avoided all of them. Grouplove, Vance Joy, Rainbow Kitten Surprise, Hozier, AJR, Bleachers, Alice Merton, Mansionaire, Walk the Moon, Bastille, and others. Those are all VERY realistic after what we got last year. This year's undercard is just so confusing. Mostly washed up 90s bands with a few rappers sprinkled in with a few indie acts. Their budget must have REALLY been slashed sometime after the targets Whitney's source gave us were posted, because those at least pointed to them staying on a similar track. Also, am I the only one who thinks they were really set on getting Panic!, and when it didn't pan out decided to go with Fall Out Boy as their plan b thinking that would be close enough? |
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Post by eeeeetrain on Feb 17, 2019 10:53:58 GMT -5
So first they say that AEG was going to be adding to the budget, now they say there was a budget cut? I guess this is the last year for Bunbury after all. ...I got the feeling that this was the AEG way to telling Bunbury it's over I don't quite understand this. If Bunbury wasn't part of the buyout, how does AEG have a say in the Bunbury budget? |
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