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Post by bboy2112 on Jun 6, 2019 18:17:53 GMT -5
whit, i remember seeing in another thread that your source had the year in review meeting the wednesday following bunbury. can you ask him for any info on that?
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Post by whitneyhouston on Jun 7, 2019 7:34:43 GMT -5
whit, i remember seeing in another thread that your source had the year in review meeting the wednesday following bunbury. can you ask him for any info on that? <iframe width="19.100000000000023" height="3.240000000000009" style="position: absolute; width: 19.100000000000023px; height: 3.240000000000009px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none;left: 15px; top: -5px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_50741114" scrolling="no"></iframe> <iframe width="19.100000000000023" height="3.240000000000009" style="position: absolute; width: 19.1px; height: 3.24px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 899px; top: -5px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_8621112" scrolling="no"></iframe> <iframe width="19.100000000000023" height="3.240000000000009" style="position: absolute; width: 19.1px; height: 3.24px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 15px; top: 102px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_13352128" scrolling="no"></iframe> <iframe width="19.100000000000023" height="3.240000000000009" style="position: absolute; width: 19.1px; height: 3.24px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 899px; top: 102px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_22859764" scrolling="no"></iframe> "The "year in review" meetings usually happen the week following the festival so I should be able to give people to official rundown here soon. I will be interested to hear what Promowest has to say. Seems like overall people had fun but the crowds were a lot smaller and weren't as lively as prior years" I THINK they had the meeting this week but I'm not 100% sure. I think my source will be at the Emery & Hawthorne Heights show tonight at Skully's so I'll try to dig up so info if they are present. <iframe width="18.75999999999999" height="3.240000000000009" style="position: absolute; width: 18.75999999999999px; height: 3.240000000000009px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none;left: 15px; top: -5px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_7018130" scrolling="no"></iframe> <iframe width="18.75999999999999" height="3.240000000000009" style="position: absolute; width: 18.76px; height: 3.24px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 883px; top: -5px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_70690780" scrolling="no"></iframe> <iframe width="18.75999999999999" height="3.240000000000009" style="position: absolute; width: 18.76px; height: 3.24px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 15px; top: 102px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_69924307" scrolling="no"></iframe> <iframe width="18.75999999999999" height="3.240000000000009" style="position: absolute; width: 18.76px; height: 3.24px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 883px; top: 102px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_14801587" scrolling="no"></iframe> Anyone have specific questions they would like me to try to get answered?
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Post by bboy2112 on Jun 7, 2019 8:22:11 GMT -5
whit, i remember seeing in another thread that your source had the year in review meeting the wednesday following bunbury. can you ask him for any info on that? <iframe width="19.100000000000023" height="3.240000000000009" style="position: absolute; width: 19.100000000000023px; height: 3.240000000000009px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none;left: 15px; top: -5px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_50741114" scrolling="no"></iframe> <iframe width="19.100000000000023" height="3.240000000000009" style="position: absolute; width: 19.1px; height: 3.24px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 899px; top: -5px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_8621112" scrolling="no"></iframe> <iframe width="19.100000000000023" height="3.240000000000009" style="position: absolute; width: 19.1px; height: 3.24px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 15px; top: 102px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_13352128" scrolling="no"></iframe> <iframe width="19.100000000000023" height="3.240000000000009" style="position: absolute; width: 19.1px; height: 3.24px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 899px; top: 102px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_22859764" scrolling="no"></iframe> "The "year in review" meetings usually happen the week following the festival so I should be able to give people to official rundown here soon. I will be interested to hear what Promowest has to say. Seems like overall people had fun but the crowds were a lot smaller and weren't as lively as prior years" I THINK they had the meeting this week but I'm not 100% sure. I think my source will be at the Emery & Hawthorne Heights show tonight at Skully's so I'll try to dig up so info if they are present. <iframe width="18.75999999999999" height="3.240000000000009" style="position: absolute; width: 18.75999999999999px; height: 3.240000000000009px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none;left: 15px; top: -5px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_7018130" scrolling="no"></iframe> <iframe width="18.75999999999999" height="3.240000000000009" style="position: absolute; width: 18.76px; height: 3.24px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 883px; top: -5px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_70690780" scrolling="no"></iframe> <iframe width="18.75999999999999" height="3.240000000000009" style="position: absolute; width: 18.76px; height: 3.24px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 15px; top: 102px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_69924307" scrolling="no"></iframe> <iframe width="18.75999999999999" height="3.240000000000009" style="position: absolute; width: 18.76px; height: 3.24px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 883px; top: 102px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_14801587" scrolling="no"></iframe> Anyone have specific questions they would like me to try to get answered? i'm more surprised that hawthorne heights didn't have a dayton show on this tour.
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Post by whitneyhouston on Jun 7, 2019 9:22:40 GMT -5
Likewise. I really only listened to their first 2 albums and the same goes for Emery, so for $15 it sounds like a good friday night to me. No shame in seeing old washed up bands at a shitty bar for me
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Post by akronbunbarian on Jun 7, 2019 19:24:28 GMT -5
whit, i remember seeing in another thread that your source had the year in review meeting the wednesday following bunbury. can you ask him for any info on that? <iframe width="19.100000000000023" height="3.240000000000009" style="position: absolute; width: 19.100000000000023px; height: 3.240000000000009px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none;left: 15px; top: -5px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_50741114" scrolling="no"></iframe> <iframe width="19.100000000000023" height="3.240000000000009" style="position: absolute; width: 19.1px; height: 3.24px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 899px; top: -5px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_8621112" scrolling="no"></iframe> <iframe width="19.100000000000023" height="3.240000000000009" style="position: absolute; width: 19.1px; height: 3.24px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 15px; top: 102px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_13352128" scrolling="no"></iframe> <iframe width="19.100000000000023" height="3.240000000000009" style="position: absolute; width: 19.1px; height: 3.24px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 899px; top: 102px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_22859764" scrolling="no"></iframe> "The "year in review" meetings usually happen the week following the festival so I should be able to give people to official rundown here soon. I will be interested to hear what Promowest has to say. Seems like overall people had fun but the crowds were a lot smaller and weren't as lively as prior years" I THINK they had the meeting this week but I'm not 100% sure. I think my source will be at the Emery & Hawthorne Heights show tonight at Skully's so I'll try to dig up so info if they are present. <iframe width="18.75999999999999" height="3.240000000000009" style="position: absolute; width: 18.75999999999999px; height: 3.240000000000009px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none;left: 15px; top: -5px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_7018130" scrolling="no"></iframe> <iframe width="18.75999999999999" height="3.240000000000009" style="position: absolute; width: 18.76px; height: 3.24px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 883px; top: -5px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_70690780" scrolling="no"></iframe> <iframe width="18.75999999999999" height="3.240000000000009" style="position: absolute; width: 18.76px; height: 3.24px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 15px; top: 102px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_69924307" scrolling="no"></iframe> <iframe width="18.75999999999999" height="3.240000000000009" style="position: absolute; width: 18.76px; height: 3.24px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 883px; top: 102px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_14801587" scrolling="no"></iframe> Anyone have specific questions they would like me to try to get answered? Might be late now, but certainty of there being a festival next year? Will there be adjustments or a return to roots after poor attendance and negative feedback?
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Post by bboy2112 on Jun 7, 2019 19:49:21 GMT -5
<iframe width="19.100000000000023" height="3.240000000000009" style="position: absolute; width: 19.100000000000023px; height: 3.240000000000009px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none;left: 15px; top: -5px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_50741114" scrolling="no"></iframe> <iframe width="19.100000000000023" height="3.240000000000009" style="position: absolute; width: 19.1px; height: 3.24px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 899px; top: -5px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_8621112" scrolling="no"></iframe> <iframe width="19.100000000000023" height="3.240000000000009" style="position: absolute; width: 19.1px; height: 3.24px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 15px; top: 102px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_13352128" scrolling="no"></iframe> <iframe width="19.100000000000023" height="3.240000000000009" style="position: absolute; width: 19.1px; height: 3.24px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 899px; top: 102px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_22859764" scrolling="no"></iframe> "The "year in review" meetings usually happen the week following the festival so I should be able to give people to official rundown here soon. I will be interested to hear what Promowest has to say. Seems like overall people had fun but the crowds were a lot smaller and weren't as lively as prior years" I THINK they had the meeting this week but I'm not 100% sure. I think my source will be at the Emery & Hawthorne Heights show tonight at Skully's so I'll try to dig up so info if they are present. <iframe width="18.75999999999999" height="3.240000000000009" style="position: absolute; width: 18.75999999999999px; height: 3.240000000000009px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none;left: 15px; top: -5px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_7018130" scrolling="no"></iframe> <iframe width="18.75999999999999" height="3.240000000000009" style="position: absolute; width: 18.76px; height: 3.24px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 883px; top: -5px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_70690780" scrolling="no"></iframe> <iframe width="18.75999999999999" height="3.240000000000009" style="position: absolute; width: 18.76px; height: 3.24px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 15px; top: 102px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_69924307" scrolling="no"></iframe> <iframe width="18.75999999999999" height="3.240000000000009" style="position: absolute; width: 18.76px; height: 3.24px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 883px; top: 102px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_14801587" scrolling="no"></iframe> Anyone have specific questions they would like me to try to get answered? Might be late now, but certainty of there being a festival next year? Will there be adjustments or a return to roots after poor attendance and negative feedback? yes, there has been a post from bunbury, saying it will take place June 5-7, 2020
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Post by akronbunbarian on Jun 8, 2019 0:03:52 GMT -5
Might be late now, but certainty of there being a festival next year? Will there be adjustments or a return to roots after poor attendance and negative feedback? yes, there has been a post from bunbury, saying it will take place June 5-7, 2020 I could say I'm gonna be Queen of England next summer, but that doesn't ensure it's actually happening.
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Post by bboy2112 on Jun 9, 2019 13:33:22 GMT -5
imma just leave this here Attachments:
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Post by whitneyhouston on Jun 10, 2019 9:54:50 GMT -5
Met up with my source at the Emery & Hawthrone Heights show at Skully's Friday night and I got a little internal insight for Bunbury 2019.
-The river stage was intended to be on the water (which we knew because of setup photos) but they decided to move it because on impending storms (which we knew) AND because they kept juggling the issue of having it way beyond capacity last year. It's still a toss up whether the river stage stays, and if it stays, more work will be done to try to keep overcrowding for occurring.
-They were disappointed with the overall turnout but were happy that security issues like the mass theft that happened during the Post Malone set last year did not occur. Apparently they had unmarked security staff thrown in the crowd during all shows after 5:45 each day to try to catch anything like this as it's not an image they want portrayed.
-There is a discussion on making a "pit" on the big stages in which it gets cleared out after each performer to allow more people closer access to the stage. This is similar to many larger festivals like Bonnaroo however it seems like this is just a super small idea and very unlikely to actually occur.
-Talks about moving the festival to different grounds have quieted down after this year had much lower attendance and we did not experience really any bottlenecks other than when lovelytheband was playing.
-The lineup next year is expected to take a turn for the booking the had this year and look "more like 2015". They are looking for "iconic but not mainstream" headliners for next year. I think we all can stand behind this direction.
-There is also an idea out there that the fantasy league take a slight change this year. The idea is to release something similar earlier on that functions as a voting system where highly requested acts are scoped out and they try to book them. No clue if this is actually going to happen but I have a feeling this could cause issues with pop acts taking over?
-The last thing I found out was that when the lineup was released, they anticipated sales being lower, but not as low as they turned out. Apparently this lineup was "about the best we could get".
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Post by funkymoses17 on Jun 10, 2019 10:53:59 GMT -5
Met up with my source at the Emery & Hawthrone Heights show at Skully's Friday night and I got a little internal insight for Bunbury 2019. -The river stage was intended to be on the water (which we knew because of setup photos) but they decided to move it because on impending storms (which we knew) AND because they kept juggling the issue of having it way beyond capacity last year. It's still a toss up whether the river stage stays, and if it stays, more work will be done to try to keep overcrowding for occurring. -They were disappointed with the overall turnout but were happy that security issues like the mass theft that happened during the Post Malone set last year did not occur. Apparently they had unmarked security staff thrown in the crowd during all shows after 5:45 each day to try to catch anything like this as it's not an image they want portrayed. -There is a discussion on making a "pit" on the big stages in which it gets cleared out after each performer to allow more people closer access to the stage. This is similar to many larger festivals like Bonnaroo however it seems like this is just a super small idea and very unlikely to actually occur. -Talks about moving the festival to different grounds have quieted down after this year had much lower attendance and we did not experience really any bottlenecks other than when lovelytheband was playing. -The lineup next year is expected to take a turn for the booking the had this year and look "more like 2015". They are looking for "iconic but not mainstream" headliners for next year. I think we all can stand behind this direction. -There is also an idea out there that the fantasy league take a slight change this year. The idea is to release something similar earlier on that functions as a voting system where highly requested acts are scoped out and they try to book them. No clue if this is actually going to happen but I have a feeling this could cause issues with pop acts taking over? -The last thing I found out was that when the lineup was released, they anticipated sales being lower, but not as low as they turned out. Apparently this lineup was "about the best we could get". Great work as always! Definitely curious as to what troubles they were running into that caused the "about the best we could get" scenario to occur. I've always had issues with the fantasy league, it's a great idea but the reward at the end is one person gets free passes and everyone else gets nothing. I dont know how many people participate but it feels like there should be more incentive to participate than just trying to be one out of thousands (?) to get the most right guesses. Looking at that 2015 line up (the headliners dont do anything for me but I know they all have drawing power to others) it's insane how big that undercard is now. That is like an absolutely stacked undercard now in hindsight.
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Post by cincinnatisound on Jun 10, 2019 11:46:05 GMT -5
Met up with my source at the Emery & Hawthrone Heights show at Skully's Friday night and I got a little internal insight for Bunbury 2019. -The river stage was intended to be on the water (which we knew because of setup photos) but they decided to move it because on impending storms (which we knew) AND because they kept juggling the issue of having it way beyond capacity last year. It's still a toss up whether the river stage stays, and if it stays, more work will be done to try to keep overcrowding for occurring. -They were disappointed with the overall turnout but were happy that security issues like the mass theft that happened during the Post Malone set last year did not occur. Apparently they had unmarked security staff thrown in the crowd during all shows after 5:45 each day to try to catch anything like this as it's not an image they want portrayed. -There is a discussion on making a "pit" on the big stages in which it gets cleared out after each performer to allow more people closer access to the stage. This is similar to many larger festivals like Bonnaroo however it seems like this is just a super small idea and very unlikely to actually occur. -Talks about moving the festival to different grounds have quieted down after this year had much lower attendance and we did not experience really any bottlenecks other than when lovelytheband was playing. -The lineup next year is expected to take a turn for the booking the had this year and look "more like 2015". They are looking for "iconic but not mainstream" headliners for next year. I think we all can stand behind this direction. -There is also an idea out there that the fantasy league take a slight change this year. The idea is to release something similar earlier on that functions as a voting system where highly requested acts are scoped out and they try to book them. No clue if this is actually going to happen but I have a feeling this could cause issues with pop acts taking over? -The last thing I found out was that when the lineup was released, they anticipated sales being lower, but not as low as they turned out. Apparently this lineup was "about the best we could get". 2015 Lineup was probably my favorite of all time. I would love to have that same feel. The riverstage works fine as long as you don't pick some of the more popular artists. I've always contended it should be more local bands mostly. And go ahead and let there be a band right before the headliner! It's a great spot as the sun is going down. i'm glad the talks of them moving the festival have quieted. That would be awful IMO.
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Post by bboy2112 on Jun 10, 2019 12:21:12 GMT -5
Met up with my source at the Emery & Hawthrone Heights show at Skully's Friday night and I got a little internal insight for Bunbury 2019. -The river stage was intended to be on the water (which we knew because of setup photos) but they decided to move it because on impending storms (which we knew) AND because they kept juggling the issue of having it way beyond capacity last year. It's still a toss up whether the river stage stays, and if it stays, more work will be done to try to keep overcrowding for occurring. -They were disappointed with the overall turnout but were happy that security issues like the mass theft that happened during the Post Malone set last year did not occur. Apparently they had unmarked security staff thrown in the crowd during all shows after 5:45 each day to try to catch anything like this as it's not an image they want portrayed. -There is a discussion on making a "pit" on the big stages in which it gets cleared out after each performer to allow more people closer access to the stage. This is similar to many larger festivals like Bonnaroo however it seems like this is just a super small idea and very unlikely to actually occur. -Talks about moving the festival to different grounds have quieted down after this year had much lower attendance and we did not experience really any bottlenecks other than when lovelytheband was playing. -The lineup next year is expected to take a turn for the booking the had this year and look "more like 2015". They are looking for "iconic but not mainstream" headliners for next year. I think we all can stand behind this direction. -There is also an idea out there that the fantasy league take a slight change this year. The idea is to release something similar earlier on that functions as a voting system where highly requested acts are scoped out and they try to book them. No clue if this is actually going to happen but I have a feeling this could cause issues with pop acts taking over? -The last thing I found out was that when the lineup was released, they anticipated sales being lower, but not as low as they turned out. Apparently this lineup was "about the best we could get". amazing work as always. also, good news that they're trying to go for a 2015 type lineup. that was my first year (also the only year i did vip) and aside from the near thunderstorm (weren't tornado sirens also going off) during tame impala's set, it is probably still the favorite edition i've attended.
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Post by whitneyhouston on Jun 10, 2019 12:25:29 GMT -5
Met up with my source at the Emery & Hawthrone Heights show at Skully's Friday night and I got a little internal insight for Bunbury 2019. -The river stage was intended to be on the water (which we knew because of setup photos) but they decided to move it because on impending storms (which we knew) AND because they kept juggling the issue of having it way beyond capacity last year. It's still a toss up whether the river stage stays, and if it stays, more work will be done to try to keep overcrowding for occurring. -They were disappointed with the overall turnout but were happy that security issues like the mass theft that happened during the Post Malone set last year did not occur. Apparently they had unmarked security staff thrown in the crowd during all shows after 5:45 each day to try to catch anything like this as it's not an image they want portrayed. -There is a discussion on making a "pit" on the big stages in which it gets cleared out after each performer to allow more people closer access to the stage. This is similar to many larger festivals like Bonnaroo however it seems like this is just a super small idea and very unlikely to actually occur. -Talks about moving the festival to different grounds have quieted down after this year had much lower attendance and we did not experience really any bottlenecks other than when lovelytheband was playing. -The lineup next year is expected to take a turn for the booking the had this year and look "more like 2015". They are looking for "iconic but not mainstream" headliners for next year. I think we all can stand behind this direction. -There is also an idea out there that the fantasy league take a slight change this year. The idea is to release something similar earlier on that functions as a voting system where highly requested acts are scoped out and they try to book them. No clue if this is actually going to happen but I have a feeling this could cause issues with pop acts taking over? -The last thing I found out was that when the lineup was released, they anticipated sales being lower, but not as low as they turned out. Apparently this lineup was "about the best we could get". 2015 Lineup was probably my favorite of all time. I would love to have that same feel. The riverstage works fine as long as you don't pick some of the more popular artists. I've always contended it should be more local bands mostly. And go ahead and let there be a band right before the headliner! It's a great spot as the sun is going down. i'm glad the talks of them moving the festival have quieted. That would be awful IMO. I agree that the view would be amazing, but if you have a band at the river stage playing around 8:45-9:45 it's going to be PACKED since the stage is so small. Either that, or you would have a really nice spread since you would have fans over closing down sawyer point and also waiting for the headliner. It might work! As far as financials though, no, I don't ask exact financial questions because anyone who works closely related to financials signs non disclosure agreements and I'm not looking to get anyone fired. I would guess that gross profit on a music festival is pretty high though, even with lackluster ticket sales. I would be stoked to see something resembling the 2015 lineup come back. I still remember this: The Front Bottoms -> Manchester Orchestra -> Shakey Graves -> Brand New ->Twenty One Pilots -> Snoop Dogg That was a pretty ridiculous day
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Post by mcnasty on Jun 10, 2019 14:15:30 GMT -5
One thought for the "Iconic but not mainstream" look to the headliners would be Vampire Weekend. My friends had an extra ticket to the Indy show the other night and I went despite only knowing a few songs. Holy shit would they be a great fit.
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Post by akronbunbarian on Jun 10, 2019 22:36:13 GMT -5
Met up with my source at the Emery & Hawthrone Heights show at Skully's Friday night and I got a little internal insight for Bunbury 2019. -The river stage was intended to be on the water (which we knew because of setup photos) but they decided to move it because on impending storms (which we knew) AND because they kept juggling the issue of having it way beyond capacity last year. It's still a toss up whether the river stage stays, and if it stays, more work will be done to try to keep overcrowding for occurring. -They were disappointed with the overall turnout but were happy that security issues like the mass theft that happened during the Post Malone set last year did not occur. Apparently they had unmarked security staff thrown in the crowd during all shows after 5:45 each day to try to catch anything like this as it's not an image they want portrayed. -There is a discussion on making a "pit" on the big stages in which it gets cleared out after each performer to allow more people closer access to the stage. This is similar to many larger festivals like Bonnaroo however it seems like this is just a super small idea and very unlikely to actually occur. -Talks about moving the festival to different grounds have quieted down after this year had much lower attendance and we did not experience really any bottlenecks other than when lovelytheband was playing. -The lineup next year is expected to take a turn for the booking the had this year and look "more like 2015". They are looking for "iconic but not mainstream" headliners for next year. I think we all can stand behind this direction. -There is also an idea out there that the fantasy league take a slight change this year. The idea is to release something similar earlier on that functions as a voting system where highly requested acts are scoped out and they try to book them. No clue if this is actually going to happen but I have a feeling this could cause issues with pop acts taking over? -The last thing I found out was that when the lineup was released, they anticipated sales being lower, but not as low as they turned out. Apparently this lineup was "about the best we could get". "More like 2015" sounds extremely encouraging. "Iconic but not mainstream" is a beautiful phrase as well. The first band that comes to mind is Arcade Fire, which is always my first choice. Vampire Weekend? Beck? Give me some of that. While I understand the water level can be an issue, and the river stage can get overcrowded at peak times, putting the 3rd stage up there at the back of the main stage area is fucking terrible. Every 3rd stage show I remember fondly was set on the gorgeous river stage. Find ways to solve this issue. Overall, this feels like good news for 2020 prospects. Give me a good lineup so I can do VIP again next year.
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Post by k1wall on Jun 11, 2019 7:22:37 GMT -5
Very interested to know more on the "about the best we could get." I'm sure planning Bunbury is mostly about making do with a modest budget and bands' schedules, but I wonder how many more factors there are. I can't remember where I heard this, but hasn't AC Entertainment (Forecastle, Roo) made it a goal to kill Bunbury? Any chance they've increased their radius clauses or made extra demands on bands to block out Bunbury?
That said, I think it was kind of a down year for festivals in general. There hasn't been one I've looked at and thought "Yes!" So, here's hoping Bunbury can put together another 2015 lineup next year. 2015 was a killer year and 2019 was the first year I voluntarily didn't go--though I kind of regret it despite the lineup.
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Post by k1wall on Jun 11, 2019 7:28:45 GMT -5
Btw, who guessed Blink 182 in the survey lol? If Bunbury books them for a third year in a row after two drop outs. . .
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Post by whitneyhouston on Jun 11, 2019 7:32:56 GMT -5
Very interested to know more on the "about the best we could get." I'm sure planning Bunbury is mostly about making do with a modest budget and bands' schedules, but I wonder how many more factors there are. I can't remember where I heard this, but hasn't AC Entertainment (Forecastle, Roo) made it a goal to kill Bunbury? Any chance they've increased their radius clauses or made extra demands on bands to block out Bunbury? That said, I think it was kind of a down year for festivals in general. There hasn't been one I've looked at and thought "Yes!" So, here's hoping Bunbury can put together another 2015 lineup next year. 2015 was a killer year and 2019 was the first year I voluntarily didn't go--though I kind of regret it despite the lineup. Yeah my impression of the "Best we could do" comment is that based on all of the bands that were available that weekend and fit in the budget that they were unable to get the type of acts they really wanted. I also mirror the same feeling that I didn't really see any festivals this year that had killer lineups. Compared the the last few years where there were a handful of solid lineups. This just felt like an off year
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Post by funkymoses17 on Jun 11, 2019 9:35:09 GMT -5
I'm curious as to how the budget would have changed or been less than any other year. With AEG coming in (and I think your source admitted they helped a little whitney?) they should have had a surplus of money if anything. Promowest sold half their shares to AEG (increase in disposable funds) and I believe that did NOT include Bunbury. So why was the budget potentially less?
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Post by whitneyhouston on Jun 11, 2019 12:17:11 GMT -5
I'm curious as to how the budget would have changed or been less than any other year. With AEG coming in (and I think your source admitted they helped a little whitney?) they should have had a surplus of money if anything. Promowest sold half their shares to AEG (increase in disposable funds) and I believe that did NOT include Bunbury. So why was the budget potentially less? I was told there was a 12% budget increase due to the acquisition. With Fall Out Boy getting off a huge arena tour (although reportedly not selling well in some cities), Greta Van Fleet becoming hugely popular, and the 1975 hitting a shit load of large festivals and gaining popularity, I can totally fathom how they spent all of their budget on this years acts.
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Post by mcnasty on Jun 11, 2019 19:58:43 GMT -5
I'm curious as to how the budget would have changed or been less than any other year. With AEG coming in (and I think your source admitted they helped a little whitney?) they should have had a surplus of money if anything. Promowest sold half their shares to AEG (increase in disposable funds) and I believe that did NOT include Bunbury. So why was the budget potentially less? I was told there was a 12% budget increase due to the acquisition. With Fall Out Boy getting off a huge arena tour (although reportedly not selling well in some cities), Greta Van Fleet becoming hugely popular, and the 1975 hitting a shit load of large festivals and gaining popularity, I can totally fathom how they spent all of their budget on this years acts. I'll respectfully disagree. I just can't see Fall Out Boy, Greta Van Fleet, The 1975, Run the Jewels and Girl Talk costing more than Jack White, The Chainsmokers, Blink 182, Incubus, and Post Malone. I'd guess Fall Out Boy would be close to Blink, but that's probably it. Who knows though
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Post by whitneyhouston on Jun 12, 2019 7:25:59 GMT -5
I was told there was a 12% budget increase due to the acquisition. With Fall Out Boy getting off a huge arena tour (although reportedly not selling well in some cities), Greta Van Fleet becoming hugely popular, and the 1975 hitting a shit load of large festivals and gaining popularity, I can totally fathom how they spent all of their budget on this years acts. I'll respectfully disagree. I just can't see Fall Out Boy, Greta Van Fleet, The 1975, Run the Jewels and Girl Talk costing more than Jack White, The Chainsmokers, Blink 182, Incubus, and Post Malone. I'd guess Fall Out Boy would be close to Blink, but that's probably it. Who knows though It's all speculation but Jack White had to be the most expensive. The Chainsmokers play hundreds of shows every year so maybe they're cheap. Blink and Incubus have been around FOREVER and can't demand too much money. Post Malone we grabbed right before he absolutely blew up. I honestly think some of the undercards grabbed more money than we think
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Post by funkymoses17 on Jun 12, 2019 8:12:37 GMT -5
I'll respectfully disagree. I just can't see Fall Out Boy, Greta Van Fleet, The 1975, Run the Jewels and Girl Talk costing more than Jack White, The Chainsmokers, Blink 182, Incubus, and Post Malone. I'd guess Fall Out Boy would be close to Blink, but that's probably it. Who knows though It's all speculation but Jack White had to be the most expensive. The Chainsmokers play hundreds of shows every year so maybe they're cheap. Blink and Incubus have been around FOREVER and can't demand too much money. Post Malone we grabbed right before he absolutely blew up. I honestly think some of the undercards grabbed more money than we think I also feel like Florence & The Machine, Deadmau5 (doesn't do a ton of festivals) and The Killers commanded just as much money as either of those sets of headliners. Although the undercard that year may not have required as much $$$ (good undercard but caught just about everyone before they blew up or got popular in general).
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Post by whitneyhouston on Jun 12, 2019 8:26:47 GMT -5
It's all speculation but Jack White had to be the most expensive. The Chainsmokers play hundreds of shows every year so maybe they're cheap. Blink and Incubus have been around FOREVER and can't demand too much money. Post Malone we grabbed right before he absolutely blew up. I honestly think some of the undercards grabbed more money than we think I also feel like Florence & The Machine, Deadmau5 (doesn't do a ton of festivals) and The Killers commanded just as much money as either of those sets of headliners. Although the undercard that year may not have required as much $$$ (good undercard but caught just about everyone before they blew up or got popular in general). I think this is the most recent market study about how much a particular artist costs to book variety.com/2014/music/news/degy-entertainment-breaks-down-artist-booking-fees-1201189498/
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Post by Deleted on Jun 12, 2019 14:20:08 GMT -5
I've heard from an industry source that due to the AEG acquisition, which as someone correctly stated did NOT include any part of Bunbury, that the total budget was actually cut by about 10%.
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Post by bboy2112 on Jun 12, 2019 15:02:57 GMT -5
I've heard from an industry source that due to the AEG acquisition, which as someone correctly stated did NOT include any part of Bunbury, that the total budget was actually cut by about 10%. that makes more sense
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Post by whitneyhouston on Jun 13, 2019 7:39:18 GMT -5
I've heard from an industry source that due to the AEG acquisition, which as someone correctly stated did NOT include any part of Bunbury, that the total budget was actually cut by about 10%. that makes more sense I think we can all agree that this makes more sense lol. I'm interested to hear some thoughts. What do people think (outside of different bands) could be added/changed to/with Bunbury to make it better?
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Post by funkymoses17 on Jun 13, 2019 8:10:32 GMT -5
I'm confused on why they would cut the budget for the festival when they sold part of the company so theoretically they should have more money to spend no?
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Post by funkymoses17 on Jun 13, 2019 8:13:09 GMT -5
I think we can all agree that this makes more sense lol. I'm interested to hear some thoughts. What do people think (outside of different bands) could be added/changed to/with Bunbury to make it better? I know people don't like the idea of it but I really think they should look at a different location or at least a different layout. The layout would be fine if they cut back on so much clutter and vendors right in the middle. Make that more of an artsy area or something. I'm surprised they wouldn't be able to get permits to shut down a street or two and expand some of it into the streets adjacent to the park. They could especially do that if they planned a weekend that the Reds weren't in town. That's just a general thing I always think about when there. It gets entirely too cluttered when ticket sales are up and people need to navigate from one stage to another around all those vendors in the middle part between the Miller Lite Bar and the Bridge.
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Post by whitneyhouston on Jun 13, 2019 9:42:48 GMT -5
I think we can all agree that this makes more sense lol. I'm interested to hear some thoughts. What do people think (outside of different bands) could be added/changed to/with Bunbury to make it better? I know people don't like the idea of it but I really think they should look at a different location or at least a different layout. The layout would be fine if they cut back on so much clutter and vendors right in the middle. Make that more of an artsy area or something. I'm surprised they wouldn't be able to get permits to shut down a street or two and expand some of it into the streets adjacent to the park. They could especially do that if they planned a weekend that the Reds weren't in town. That's just a general thing I always think about when there. It gets entirely too cluttered when ticket sales are up and people need to navigate from one stage to another around all those vendors in the middle part between the Miller Lite Bar and the Bridge. Even if they just too A FEW of these parking spots and put vendors here, it would make a world of difference. I know, I know, I know, those are VIP parking spots
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