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Post by funkymoses17 on Jun 13, 2019 9:47:32 GMT -5
I know people don't like the idea of it but I really think they should look at a different location or at least a different layout. The layout would be fine if they cut back on so much clutter and vendors right in the middle. Make that more of an artsy area or something. I'm surprised they wouldn't be able to get permits to shut down a street or two and expand some of it into the streets adjacent to the park. They could especially do that if they planned a weekend that the Reds weren't in town. That's just a general thing I always think about when there. It gets entirely too cluttered when ticket sales are up and people need to navigate from one stage to another around all those vendors in the middle part between the Miller Lite Bar and the Bridge. Even if they just too A FEW of these parking spots and put vendors here, it would make a world of difference. I know, I know, I know, those are VIP parking spots YES! Imagine if they put food vendors and merch vendors there and made it like a little village like vibe. Even found a way to connect that and then have the Craft Beer area on the festival grounds still but connect the two through just walking across the street (which they would get a permit to just close for the festival). That would be kind of cool and free up a lot of the grassy area for people to just hang out in/art installations and also not bottleneck things around the walkway next to the river right before the bridge. Would probably make a world of difference. I haven't done VIP before but do all the VIP people really make use of all those spots? They should push people to do ride-sharing/public transportation/scooters&bikes anyways to promote a more eco-friendly approach.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 13, 2019 10:12:31 GMT -5
I think we can all agree that this makes more sense lol. I'm interested to hear some thoughts. What do people think (outside of different bands) could be added/changed to/with Bunbury to make it better? I know people don't like the idea of it but I really think they should look at a different location or at least a different layout. The layout would be fine if they cut back on so much clutter and vendors right in the middle. Make that more of an artsy area or something. I'm surprised they wouldn't be able to get permits to shut down a street or two and expand some of it into the streets adjacent to the park. They could especially do that if they planned a weekend that the Reds weren't in town. That's just a general thing I always think about when there. It gets entirely too cluttered when ticket sales are up and people need to navigate from one stage to another around all those vendors in the middle part between the Miller Lite Bar and the Bridge. A HUGE portion of the revenue comes from sponsors and vendor sales. Forcing everyone to walk past the vendors and beer booths is where they get most of their money. As much of a pain as it is (and it SUCKS) this will never go away.
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Post by whitneyhouston on Jun 13, 2019 10:39:42 GMT -5
I know people don't like the idea of it but I really think they should look at a different location or at least a different layout. The layout would be fine if they cut back on so much clutter and vendors right in the middle. Make that more of an artsy area or something. I'm surprised they wouldn't be able to get permits to shut down a street or two and expand some of it into the streets adjacent to the park. They could especially do that if they planned a weekend that the Reds weren't in town. That's just a general thing I always think about when there. It gets entirely too cluttered when ticket sales are up and people need to navigate from one stage to another around all those vendors in the middle part between the Miller Lite Bar and the Bridge. A HUGE portion of the revenue comes from sponsors and vendor sales. Forcing everyone to walk past the vendors and beer booths is where they get most of their money. As much of a pain as it is (and it SUCKS) this will never go away. Promowest Fest did this in 2016 and the food area was EMPTY the entire weekend. The only busy vendors were those directly on the path and in your face as you moved.
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Post by funkymoses17 on Jun 13, 2019 15:28:07 GMT -5
Well if that's the case then my main suggestion would be that they move it if they aren't willing to move vendors and they want the type of attendance (and bring in the size of artists/fan bases) they had in 2018.
Obviously that's just my one thing I think they could do to improve.
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Post by notaguest on Jun 13, 2019 15:40:22 GMT -5
I'm confused on why they would cut the budget for the festival when they sold part of the company so theoretically they should have more money to spend no? They most likely paid out the higher ups a bonus with the proceeds of the sale. That's usually how it works with a sale.
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Post by akronbunbarian on Jun 14, 2019 11:39:25 GMT -5
I love the venue and I'm fine with the layout, as long as the river stage is on the river. My advice is...spend more money and book a better lineup.
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Post by bboy2112 on Jun 15, 2019 23:17:00 GMT -5
just saw vampire weekend and they would totally make a great closer for next year.
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Post by bboy2112 on Jun 17, 2019 14:50:57 GMT -5
Motion City Soundtrack announced a reunion and comeback tour today. They'd be a cool bunbury band and they completely skip over cinci.
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Post by chetguy on Jun 17, 2019 18:31:01 GMT -5
I’ve mentioned it before but I wish there was more buy in from Cincinnati, things like after-shows around the city and artist pop-ups would be really cool. That being said Promowest will probably first need to prove they can book a solid lineup in their current state
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Post by chetguy on Jun 17, 2019 21:39:46 GMT -5
Did my first bonnaroo this past weekend, and here are a few acts I think would be awesome at bunbury that I saw:
-Kacey Musgraves: she played in 2015 but she’s since blown up. Having her close a stage would be an awesome bump for her since she’s still a sub-headliner in most places. She absolutely can fill that role she’s a stellar performer. Also had an amazing cover of Do You Realize
- Brockhampton: these guys are an extremely fun show. Their fan base isn’t really obnoxious like post Malone’s either. The crowd stays really into it
-Hozier: still think they really missed on him. He was on bonnaroos largest stage but I think he would’ve been really good at bunbury.
-Mac Demarco: one of the best of the weekend. This show was equal parts weird, fun, and moving. He crushed it and had the entire crowd into it
- Hippo Campus: this would be a classic river stage overflow. But these guys are getting bigger and are great live.
Others that were great but I can’t see at bunbury: Childish Gambino, Beach House, the lonely island, phish, the National
I also bet bunbury books odesza next year. They draw a big crowd, I understand the appeal a little bit, it’s a cool light show but imo the music is pretty boring. They’ve also been touring the same set for like 3 years and seem to get bigger each time around.
That being said, one thing i like about bunbury is the way they’ve handled electronic music. They really only book DJs that are big and have more of a unique style (I’m not counting chainsmokers, imo they’re just pop music). Off the top of my head that’s Pretty Lights, deadmau5, bassnectar, Griz, and girl talk. All the big multi-genre fests have a lot of electronic acts and stages set up for them. If you thought post Malone fans were annoying wait til you see these lol. To be perfectly honest, some DJs are a good time and can have really good shows if you’re into that kind of music, but most of them aren’t like that and it’s a lot of the same. I hope bunbury avoids that direction.
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Post by funkymoses17 on Jun 18, 2019 8:21:45 GMT -5
I've noticed festivals fall into the trap of just booking like a million bass DJs or a ton of Prog/Pop House music DJs. That gets old really quickly. They could easily do like Tommie Sunshine into Sunnery James/Ryan Marciano into Fedde Le Grand into some bass DJ into some really big name. A lot of the festivals just get lazy and book all some sub genre of EDM and shove all those acts/fans into one stage (which really isn't the worst thing ever).
Agreed Chet, Bunbury definitely excels at booking unique EDM and doesn't over saturate their lineup with any of it.
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Post by whitneyhouston on Jun 18, 2019 8:35:12 GMT -5
Motion City Soundtrack announced a reunion and comeback tour today. They'd be a cool bunbury band and they completely skip over cinci. <iframe width="22.480000000000018" height="2.9200000000000017" style="position: absolute; width: 22.480000000000018px; height: 2.9200000000000017px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none;left: 15px; top: -5px;" id="MoatPxIOPT1_10270649" scrolling="no"></iframe> <iframe width="22.480000000000018" height="2.9200000000000017" style="position: absolute; width: 22.48px; height: 2.92px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 1065px; top: -5px;" id="MoatPxIOPT1_55840366" scrolling="no"></iframe> <iframe width="22.480000000000018" height="2.9200000000000017" style="position: absolute; width: 22.48px; height: 2.92px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 15px; top: 87px;" id="MoatPxIOPT1_16133734" scrolling="no"></iframe> <iframe width="22.480000000000018" height="2.9200000000000017" style="position: absolute; width: 22.48px; height: 2.92px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 1065px; top: 87px;" id="MoatPxIOPT1_34858560" scrolling="no"></iframe> Yeah I saw that! I love them but find it strange that they came back so quickly. I went to the farewell show in columbus and the lead singer was talking about how the touring is impossible to keep up with at his age and that they're done forever...looks like that didn't last long
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Post by whitneyhouston on Jun 18, 2019 8:38:53 GMT -5
Going off the EDM comments, for the most part this kind of music drives me nuts. I know Bassnectar is super super popular but my group was only able to tolerate it for about 15 minutes before we left. I can't get into electronic music that doesn't have any lyrics. We did like girl talk since he sampled songs we knew and loved griz a lot since there was live instruments being played.
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Post by funkymoses17 on Jun 18, 2019 8:43:32 GMT -5
Going off the EDM comments, for the most part this kind of music drives me nuts. I know Bassnectar is super super popular but my group was only able to tolerate it for about 15 minutes before we left. I can't get into electronic music that doesn't have any lyrics. We did like girl talk since he sampled songs we knew and loved griz a lot since there was live instruments being played. We saw Bassnecter at Breakaway their first year and Bonnaroo in 2015 and it was fun but we got bored of it pretty quickly. Since then I've definitely noticed that his fanbase is DEDICATED but also really polarizing.
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Post by chetguy on Jun 18, 2019 18:46:54 GMT -5
Billie Eilish would be solid and a good way to move tickets with out breaking the bank
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Post by mcnasty on Jun 18, 2019 19:04:06 GMT -5
Billie Eilish would be solid and a good way to move tickets with out breaking the bank I think she'd be a big draw, but I feel like by the time they make an offer she'll probably be very expensive. I think this would've been the year to get her at a good price right as she blew up. Music Midtown probably got the best deal, booking earlier this year and the festival isn't until September, and she's all over the charts. Its a tricky game getting the right people at the right time.
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Post by whitneyhouston on Jun 19, 2019 7:31:42 GMT -5
Billie Eilish would be solid and a good way to move tickets with out breaking the bank I think she'd be a big draw, but I feel like by the time they make an offer she'll probably be very expensive. I think this would've been the year to get her at a good price right as she blew up. Music Midtown probably got the best deal, booking earlier this year and the festival isn't until September, and she's all over the charts. Its a tricky game getting the right people at the right time. I'll play devils advocate here just for fun. Yes, she would sell a lot of tickets but have you ever seen her perform live? Yikes...she just kinda stands there and randomly starts talking during her songs
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Post by funkymoses17 on Jun 19, 2019 8:59:43 GMT -5
I think she'd be a big draw, but I feel like by the time they make an offer she'll probably be very expensive. I think this would've been the year to get her at a good price right as she blew up. Music Midtown probably got the best deal, booking earlier this year and the festival isn't until September, and she's all over the charts. Its a tricky game getting the right people at the right time. I'll play devils advocate here just for fun. Yes, she would sell a lot of tickets but have you ever seen her perform live? Yikes...she just kinda stands there and randomly starts talking during her songs My GF was very interested in going to see her and my initial response was that she is probably really boring to see live because the songs don't translate well into a stage show imo. Perhaps if it were more in like an Ohio Theater or type setting it would be better?
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Post by whitneyhouston on Jun 19, 2019 9:03:40 GMT -5
I'll play devils advocate here just for fun. Yes, she would sell a lot of tickets but have you ever seen her perform live? Yikes...she just kinda stands there and randomly starts talking during her songs My GF was very interested in going to see her and my initial response was that she is probably really boring to see live because the songs don't translate well into a stage show imo. Perhaps if it were more in like an Ohio Theater or type setting it would be better? Perhaps? She kinda falls in the same boat as someone like Bon Iver. Great music and well crafted, but it's just kinda a different crowd. More subdued and there is really appreciate the music and I think might be hard to transfer into a festival setting. However, she seems to be hitting a lot of festivals so maybe I am completely wrong!
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Post by mcnasty on Jun 19, 2019 12:50:27 GMT -5
Another female artist who is blowing up right now and who I fully expect to be all over the festival circuit next year is Lizzo. A good friend of mine is logistics director for the Indy Pride fest, and they managed to book her for just 10k RIGHT before she blew up. They were worried she was going to ask for more money and a new contract, but she did not, and their festival attendance doubled from 20k to 40k (over the course of a full 12 hour festival day, not all at once). He told me he was certain it was Lizzo, because admission was just 5 bucks compared to concerts with tickets starting at 45-60 dollars in other cities. I just noticed shes listed as #6 behind Billie Eilish and Vampire Weekend at Music Midtown. She could be a top 5 act next year and provide some much needed diversity near the top.
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Post by funkymoses17 on Jun 24, 2019 17:58:12 GMT -5
You seriously can’t make this stuff up...Blink-182 just postponed their Nationwide show, that was scheduled for THIS THURSDAY, and moved it back 3 months to the end of September. As of now it looks like it’s the only show rescheduled
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Post by bookah on Jun 24, 2019 19:04:42 GMT -5
You seriously can’t make this stuff up...Blink-182 just postponed their Nationwide show, that was scheduled for THIS THURSDAY, and moved it back 3 months to the end of September. As of now it looks like it’s the only show rescheduled They are trying their hardest to be a joke. I love Blink and their music but man are they pissing off Ohio fans. Hopefully this means that they are reworking their new album to be more like generational divide opposed to Blame it on my youth after the feedback from the fans. oh wait... I forgot they don't care about their fans : ^)
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Post by mcnasty on Jun 25, 2019 11:44:41 GMT -5
You have to be joking!! Do they just hate Ohio for some reason?! I'm serious, this is the fourth postponement/cancellation in just over a year. I want to see them in Indy, but I'm not going to because of these sorts of antics. Also, I don't want to sit through Lil Wayne
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Post by whitneyhouston on Jun 25, 2019 17:48:06 GMT -5
You have to be joking!! Do they just hate Ohio for some reason?! I'm serious, this is the fourth postponement/cancellation in just over a year. I want to see them in Indy, but I'm not going to because of these sorts of antics. Also, I don't want to sit through Lil Wayne Apparently the setback is because the welding crew they had building some stage props was unable to finish their setup in time.
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Post by chetguy on Jun 26, 2019 8:59:13 GMT -5
You have to be joking!! Do they just hate Ohio for some reason?! I'm serious, this is the fourth postponement/cancellation in just over a year. I want to see them in Indy, but I'm not going to because of these sorts of antics. Also, I don't want to sit through Lil Wayne Apparently the setback is because the welding crew they had building some stage props was unable to finish their setup in time. I guess you can’t blame Blink for that but we certainly can blame them when they cancel the make up date to work on a new album
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Post by funkymoses17 on Jul 1, 2019 8:16:08 GMT -5
I learned some fun info this weekend.
Apparently vendors sales were down this year due to the lineup (probably no real surprise there). And, I have no idea if this is common practice or not, they make the vendors register and sign a contract to be a vendor prior to the lineup being announced.
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Post by whitneyhouston on Jul 1, 2019 8:51:09 GMT -5
I learned some fun info this weekend. Apparently vendors sales were down this year due to the lineup (probably no real surprise there). And, I have no idea if this is common practice or not, they make the vendors register and sign a contract to be a vendor prior to the lineup being announced. Thanks for the info! But yes, it's pretty normal to have vendors sign contracts before the lineup announcements.
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Post by whitneyhouston on Jul 1, 2019 15:17:28 GMT -5
Does anyone here work at Pins Mechanical downtown? My source told me that the first headliner has already been booked for Bunbury 2020. After we left, they said "Just so you know, we already booked one of the headliners and they were playing in Pins while we were there". We were there between 5:30pm-6:45pm if you are able to get into the touchtunes music history. I have no idea if this is something that's feasible to do?
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Post by mcnasty on Jul 1, 2019 17:07:10 GMT -5
Does anyone here work at Pins Mechanical downtown? My source told me that the first headliner has already been booked for Bunbury 2020. After we left, they said "Just so you know, we already booked one of the headliners and they were playing in Pins while we were there". We were there between 5:30pm-6:45pm if you are able to get into the touchtunes music history. I have no idea if this is something that's feasible to do? Oh damn! That's got my curiosity up. Seems pretty early to book a headliner so that makes me think that it's one of their first choices if they have them locked down 11 months in advance. Any indication of the general genre of the booking?
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Post by chetguy on Jul 1, 2019 17:52:25 GMT -5
Does anyone here work at Pins Mechanical downtown? My source told me that the first headliner has already been booked for Bunbury 2020. After we left, they said "Just so you know, we already booked one of the headliners and they were playing in Pins while we were there". We were there between 5:30pm-6:45pm if you are able to get into the touchtunes music history. I have no idea if this is something that's feasible to do? Oh damn! That's got my curiosity up. Seems pretty early to book a headliner so that makes me think that it's one of their first choices if they have them locked down 11 months in advance. Any indication of the general genre of the booking? I read an AMA for Lollapaloozas main booker on Reddit and he said they have their headliners booked anywhere from 24 to 6 months before the fest. I’m glad they’re being proactive though!
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