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Post by funkymoses17 on May 7, 2020 8:29:48 GMT -5
I figured since everything is getting cancelled we might as well get a jump onto what the festival and concert landscape will look like in 20201.
It's looking like even tours are being rescheduled to 2021 as well. How's everyone feel about going to concerts next year? Obviously trying to leave politics out of it, just in general it feels like it'll be a state to state decision on when to allow them and at what capacity and any new rules in place. Same would likely go with festivals as well I would think, although probably more strict when it comes to that because of the size of them and people traveling from all over.
I for one would feel comfortable if 1. I could get an antibody test to show if I'd had it or not and now have anti-bodies for it, 2. it's proven that having anti-bodies would increase my chances of battling it should I get it again (ala the flu) or 3. There is a readily available vaccine.
That's just personal preference, but regardless I really can't wait to be able to go to shows again!
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Post by bboy2112 on May 7, 2020 17:22:02 GMT -5
i'm hoping for the same!
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Post by notaguest on May 8, 2020 8:28:32 GMT -5
I'm thinking either a vaccine or a positive test for antibodies (with the knowledge that they block contracting the virus). I've just seen too much from people recently to trust much else in terms of large gatherings.
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Post by funkymoses17 on May 8, 2020 9:54:22 GMT -5
I definitely am in the mindset with a lot of stuff of not wanting to be the guinea pig when it comes to gatherings and stuff. Kind of risk vs. reward thing.
I will say that I don't hate the idea of these drive-in concerts I've seen some places having. It's definitely not the same but it would be kind of funny to attend haha. Then again it's almost no different than what people are putting on streaming. The DJ business is not bringing in the money necessarily right now but they are all certainly able to put on performances from home still. Some artists have been able to do that as well but I'm wondering if at some point we trend towards a scenario where a band potentially rents out like large studios or venues and puts on a full fledged show and allows people to pay for it online ahead of time like a ticket and then just watch the stream of a premium performance. Until touring is a viable option again.
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Post by cincinnatisound on May 8, 2020 13:24:17 GMT -5
I definitely am in the mindset with a lot of stuff of not wanting to be the guinea pig when it comes to gatherings and stuff. Kind of risk vs. reward thing. I will say that I don't hate the idea of these drive-in concerts I've seen some places having. It's definitely not the same but it would be kind of funny to attend haha. Then again it's almost no different than what people are putting on streaming. The DJ business is not bringing in the money necessarily right now but they are all certainly able to put on performances from home still. Some artists have been able to do that as well but I'm wondering if at some point we trend towards a scenario where a band potentially rents out like large studios or venues and puts on a full fledged show and allows people to pay for it online ahead of time like a ticket and then just watch the stream of a premium performance. Until touring is a viable option again. People can get as creative as they want, but MAN, nothing compares to a live concert. The wife and I took a stroll through Yeatman's Cove/Sawyer point and I was downright depressed that I couldn't smell the spilt beer, food stands, bug spray and suntan lotion. We stood in the beer village and just sighed. It's gonna be a long summer.
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Post by funkymoses17 on May 8, 2020 15:58:43 GMT -5
I definitely am in the mindset with a lot of stuff of not wanting to be the guinea pig when it comes to gatherings and stuff. Kind of risk vs. reward thing. I will say that I don't hate the idea of these drive-in concerts I've seen some places having. It's definitely not the same but it would be kind of funny to attend haha. Then again it's almost no different than what people are putting on streaming. The DJ business is not bringing in the money necessarily right now but they are all certainly able to put on performances from home still. Some artists have been able to do that as well but I'm wondering if at some point we trend towards a scenario where a band potentially rents out like large studios or venues and puts on a full fledged show and allows people to pay for it online ahead of time like a ticket and then just watch the stream of a premium performance. Until touring is a viable option again. People can get as creative as they want, but MAN, nothing compares to a live concert. The wife and I took a stroll through Yeatman's Cove/Sawyer point and I was downright depressed that I couldn't smell the spilt beer, food stands, bug spray and suntan lotion. We stood in the beer village and just sighed. It's gonna be a long summer. Good point! Here the only real outdoor concert area is the back of Express so I haven't had that yet although the empty marquee at Newport Music Hall gets me depressed too. We've been going back and finding recent live concerts to watch on youtube and pretend it's real. Last weekend was The Killers, Florence & the Machine, Justice, Deadmau5 and Glass Animals. Tomorrow night I saw Griffyn is going to release concert footage from last year so we'll be tuning into that.
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Post by WB21 on May 11, 2020 8:46:17 GMT -5
Count me in as someone who would definitely go when festivals come back. Hopefully that is next year.
One band I have recently discovered and would like to see at Bunbury is The Hunna. Anyone else checked them out? I think they’d be a perfect fit for this festival.
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Post by funkymoses17 on May 11, 2020 8:54:55 GMT -5
Count me in as someone who would definitely go when festivals come back. Hopefully that is next year. One band I have recently discovered and would like to see at Bunbury is The Hunna. Anyone else checked them out? I think they’d be a perfect fit for this festival. I don't think I've heard of them but will be checking them out now. I feel like maybe I've seen their name on Alt Nation but no song comes to mind.
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Post by cincinnatisound on May 11, 2020 9:32:27 GMT -5
Alanis Morissette/Garbage/Liz Phair at Riverbend has just been postponed. No make up date announced.
In other news, I managed to walk past both of the new concert facilities in Newport, KY and Cincinnati. Both are moving forward at about the same pace because you can clearly see the steel beams that make up the balcony seating bowl. I'm still shocked neither one of these facilities was cancelled, especially now. Either way, I'm psyched. Gonna be some GREAT bands coming through.
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Post by bboy2112 on May 12, 2020 9:26:47 GMT -5
The Black Keys at Riverbend just got cancelled. No concerts this year for me
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Post by miguel411 on May 14, 2020 7:11:24 GMT -5
Did anyone who had tickets to Bunbury get their refund yet? I have not.
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Post by bookah on May 14, 2020 10:17:50 GMT -5
Did anyone who had tickets to Bunbury get their refund yet? I have not. My girlfriend and I both did. She got hers a few days before I did I think. Got it a week or two ago.
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Post by ordealbyfire on May 19, 2020 21:51:44 GMT -5
Fully expect Shaky Knees to be cancelled. May go ahead and request my refund...
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Post by funkymoses17 on May 20, 2020 8:56:56 GMT -5
I'm starting to think we likely wont see any festivals this year. Maybe there will be a few that will take place in Florida or Texas by the fall but I can't see anyone allowing THOUSANDS of people to congregate from all over the country before the winter. Could be wrong, some states seem more willing to do things than others but feels like a safe bet.
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Post by cincinnatisound on May 20, 2020 12:05:10 GMT -5
I'm starting to think we likely wont see any festivals this year. Maybe there will be a few that will take place in Florida or Texas by the fall but I can't see anyone allowing THOUSANDS of people to congregate from all over the country before the winter. Could be wrong, some states seem more willing to do things than others but feels like a safe bet. Yeah, Railbird Fest in Lexington has yet to cancel, but I would 100% guess most of the major acts would pull out, especially those that have cancelled tours. No point in doing a one-off.
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Post by funkymoses17 on May 26, 2020 9:11:48 GMT -5
What's everyone's opinion of these Drive-In concerts that seem to be popping up?
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Post by cincinnatisound on May 26, 2020 11:18:37 GMT -5
What's everyone's opinion of these Drive-In concerts that seem to be popping up? Meh? I drink at concerts. Can my uber sit there?
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Post by funkymoses17 on May 27, 2020 9:23:21 GMT -5
What's everyone's opinion of these Drive-In concerts that seem to be popping up? Meh? I drink at concerts. Can my uber sit there? haha that is legit my hangup as well. I love the idea of just getting to go to any show but I'd really have to weight the options. Shows during the week I'd usually only have one beer usually bc of work the next day but anything on the weekends, all bets were off haha. I guess if my GF and I rotated on who was driving I would be down for it. If an artist I was really interested in came here and did it, I would probably go just to see how it would be.
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Post by cincinnatisound on May 27, 2020 10:50:20 GMT -5
Meh? I drink at concerts. Can my uber sit there? haha that is legit my hangup as well. I love the idea of just getting to go to any show but I'd really have to weight the options. Shows during the week I'd usually only have one beer usually bc of work the next day but anything on the weekends, all bets were off haha. I guess if my GF and I rotated on who was driving I would be down for it. If an artist I was really interested in came here and did it, I would probably go just to see how it would be. Are people required to stay in their cars? I imagine it would be tough to hear really well if you have a windshield in front of you. And there's just an energy you get with the crowd. When the band hits that chord that gets everyone jumping..hard to replace that energy. PLUS SOME ASSHOLE IS GOING TO HONK! Can you have your car running? How many fumes are we dealing with? Or off? Will you overheat? What about leaving? How fucking long would it take to clear a parking lot. Can the PA speakers even cover the area that well? How many people can fit into the "parking lot"? Would it be like 100 people spread out in a huge Kroger parking lot? Where do I pee? What if there's an emergency? Is it even economical? Someone is going to run out of gas or have a dead battery. THIS DOESN'T MAKE SENSE TO ME.
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Post by showgirlsteve on Jun 4, 2020 12:41:56 GMT -5
haha that is legit my hangup as well. I love the idea of just getting to go to any show but I'd really have to weight the options. Shows during the week I'd usually only have one beer usually bc of work the next day but anything on the weekends, all bets were off haha. I guess if my GF and I rotated on who was driving I would be down for it. If an artist I was really interested in came here and did it, I would probably go just to see how it would be. Are people required to stay in their cars? I imagine it would be tough to hear really well if you have a windshield in front of you. And there's just an energy you get with the crowd. When the band hits that chord that gets everyone jumping..hard to replace that energy. PLUS SOME ASSHOLE IS GOING TO HONK! Can you have your car running? How many fumes are we dealing with? Or off? Will you overheat? What about leaving? How fucking long would it take to clear a parking lot. Can the PA speakers even cover the area that well? How many people can fit into the "parking lot"? Would it be like 100 people spread out in a huge Kroger parking lot? Where do I pee? What if there's an emergency? Is it even economical? Someone is going to run out of gas or have a dead battery. THIS DOESN'T MAKE SENSE TO ME. Since my local drive-in held one, it seems like they'd all be held much like a drive-in movie. You're not confined to your car, just expected to stay either in or immediately in front of it. Sound goes through your radio. There's a limited capacity restroom available.
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Post by cincinnatisound on Jun 5, 2020 7:59:17 GMT -5
Are people required to stay in their cars? I imagine it would be tough to hear really well if you have a windshield in front of you. And there's just an energy you get with the crowd. When the band hits that chord that gets everyone jumping..hard to replace that energy. PLUS SOME ASSHOLE IS GOING TO HONK! Can you have your car running? How many fumes are we dealing with? Or off? Will you overheat? What about leaving? How fucking long would it take to clear a parking lot. Can the PA speakers even cover the area that well? How many people can fit into the "parking lot"? Would it be like 100 people spread out in a huge Kroger parking lot? Where do I pee? What if there's an emergency? Is it even economical? Someone is going to run out of gas or have a dead battery. THIS DOESN'T MAKE SENSE TO ME. Since my local drive-in held one, it seems like they'd all be held much like a drive-in movie. You're not confined to your car, just expected to stay either in or immediately in front of it. Sound goes through your radio. There's a limited capacity restroom available. Sound through your radio is interesting! Who was the band?
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Post by funkymoses17 on Jun 5, 2020 9:09:53 GMT -5
Are people required to stay in their cars? I imagine it would be tough to hear really well if you have a windshield in front of you. And there's just an energy you get with the crowd. When the band hits that chord that gets everyone jumping..hard to replace that energy. PLUS SOME ASSHOLE IS GOING TO HONK! Can you have your car running? How many fumes are we dealing with? Or off? Will you overheat? What about leaving? How fucking long would it take to clear a parking lot. Can the PA speakers even cover the area that well? How many people can fit into the "parking lot"? Would it be like 100 people spread out in a huge Kroger parking lot? Where do I pee? What if there's an emergency? Is it even economical? Someone is going to run out of gas or have a dead battery. THIS DOESN'T MAKE SENSE TO ME. Since my local drive-in held one, it seems like they'd all be held much like a drive-in movie. You're not confined to your car, just expected to stay either in or immediately in front of it. Sound goes through your radio. There's a limited capacity restroom available. This has me intrigued! I would imagine some of the places would need to build stages to accommodate set ups and weather.
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Post by kbach on Jun 5, 2020 14:37:37 GMT -5
First time since 2014 I’m not at bunbury in the first weekend of June. This time slot in past years led me to seeing Father John Misty, The Shelters, July Talk, The Wrecks, and Joywave. I’m sad right now lol.
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Post by funkymoses17 on Jun 8, 2020 10:01:26 GMT -5
I'm very intrigued as to how they will bring festivals and concerts back. Seems like Texas is trying hard to be the front runner, they now allowed entertainment venues to have 50% occupancy. At somepoint some band and festival will have to be the first to try it I guess. Unlike Vegas (which just opened up over the weekend), you could enforce masks and just assume ppl wont be drinking at concerts potentially. Seemed like in Vegas people are taking it as a recommendation and foregoing things like that so it'll be interesting to see if there are any spikes.
We are supposed to go on vacation in 3 weeks in Florida and are still on the fence about if we should go or not.
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Post by cincinnatisound on Jun 9, 2020 11:14:41 GMT -5
I'm very intrigued as to how they will bring festivals and concerts back. Seems like Texas is trying hard to be the front runner, they now allowed entertainment venues to have 50% occupancy. At somepoint some band and festival will have to be the first to try it I guess. Unlike Vegas (which just opened up over the weekend), you could enforce masks and just assume ppl wont be drinking at concerts potentially. Seemed like in Vegas people are taking it as a recommendation and foregoing things like that so it'll be interesting to see if there are any spikes. We are supposed to go on vacation in 3 weeks in Florida and are still on the fence about if we should go or not. 50%, are they going to require chairs? That would totally kill standing room only or general pits. And I can't imagine "no drinking". That's a ridiculously large revenue source for the venue (and even some bands, they split the bar take). I think we'll see outdoor festivals sooner than indoor concerts. More and more info keeps coming out from the WHO about surface transmission being low. It seems to be more about recycled indoor air and tight indoor spaces. And now there's a lot of talk about asymptomatic people not actually spreading it? It's all so confusing.
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Post by funkymoses17 on Jun 10, 2020 8:38:58 GMT -5
I'm very intrigued as to how they will bring festivals and concerts back. Seems like Texas is trying hard to be the front runner, they now allowed entertainment venues to have 50% occupancy. At somepoint some band and festival will have to be the first to try it I guess. Unlike Vegas (which just opened up over the weekend), you could enforce masks and just assume ppl wont be drinking at concerts potentially. Seemed like in Vegas people are taking it as a recommendation and foregoing things like that so it'll be interesting to see if there are any spikes. We are supposed to go on vacation in 3 weeks in Florida and are still on the fence about if we should go or not. 50%, are they going to require chairs? That would totally kill standing room only or general pits. And I can't imagine "no drinking". That's a ridiculously large revenue source for the venue (and even some bands, they split the bar take). I think we'll see outdoor festivals sooner than indoor concerts. More and more info keeps coming out from the WHO about surface transmission being low. It seems to be more about recycled indoor air and tight indoor spaces. And now there's a lot of talk about asymptomatic people not actually spreading it? It's all so confusing. It feels like every day conflicting stuff comes out. It's hard to figure out what to believe and will probably just push me to wait longer before I do bigger events like that. Although I am definitely ok with outside stuff in the Fall (such as like Comm Fest maybe and DooDah Parade and things like that. Obviously with proper distancing). Haha I literally go back and forth on how I feel about everything. I also saw Lolla and Coachella cancelled (Bonnaroo still trudging ahead for now). Coachella is tossing around the idea of having a smaller attendanceto their traditional spring one next year and then having a full fledged one in Fall 2021 I had read? Seems a little early to have aggressive plans like that imo but we'll see!
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Post by bboy2112 on Jun 22, 2020 12:57:06 GMT -5
I've been listening to a group called 100 gecs recently, and I think they'd be a perfect fit for bunbury.
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Post by cincinnatisound on Jun 23, 2020 7:57:31 GMT -5
I've been listening to a group called 100 gecs recently, and I think they'd be a perfect fit for bunbury. Question: Do you think Bunbury comes back as the same festival next year? Thoughts - I can see Bunbury shrinking a bit. Promowest is building that new concert facility across the river in Newport. It wouldn't shock me in the least if they tried to incorporate it somehow. Maybe the lineup party is there, or a pre/post festival party. Or, god forbid, Bunbury shrinks so much that it becomes just a small concert hosted there because it has indoor/outdoor capabilities.
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Post by funkymoses17 on Jun 23, 2020 8:45:47 GMT -5
I've been listening to a group called 100 gecs recently, and I think they'd be a perfect fit for bunbury. Question: Do you think Bunbury comes back as the same festival next year? Thoughts - I can see Bunbury shrinking a bit. Promowest is building that new concert facility across the river in Newport. It wouldn't shock me in the least if they tried to incorporate it somehow. Maybe the lineup party is there, or a pre/post festival party. Or, god forbid, Bunbury shrinks so much that it becomes just a small concert hosted there because it has indoor/outdoor capabilities. I'd love for them to be able to expand it to a layout where you could walk from one place to another. I don't know if they have the budget to make it bigger and make that work but it would be cool. There were rumors floating around when the new Crew stadium was being approved and Sonic Temple reupping in Columbus at Mapfre that the long term idea was to hopefully move it downtown to a SXSW type rock festival. I'm not sure if that's something that will happen at all or not (haven't heard a word about it since) but just a general set up like that would be so cool.
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Post by mcnasty on Jun 23, 2020 18:41:36 GMT -5
Question: Do you think Bunbury comes back as the same festival next year? Thoughts - I can see Bunbury shrinking a bit. Promowest is building that new concert facility across the river in Newport. It wouldn't shock me in the least if they tried to incorporate it somehow. Maybe the lineup party is there, or a pre/post festival party. Or, god forbid, Bunbury shrinks so much that it becomes just a small concert hosted there because it has indoor/outdoor capabilities. I'd love for them to be able to expand it to a layout where you could walk from one place to another. I don't know if they have the budget to make it bigger and make that work but it would be cool. There were rumors floating around when the new Crew stadium was being approved and Sonic Temple reupping in Columbus at Mapfre that the long term idea was to hopefully move it downtown to a SXSW type rock festival. I'm not sure if that's something that will happen at all or not (haven't heard a word about it since) but just a general set up like that would be so cool. I think it does return. Demand will be high, and hopefully there will be an even larger pool of artists available. One thing people have lost sight of in all this is just how bad this has hit some of the artists, not just the promoters and workers. I have connections to a few smaller, well established touring bands who are really struggling, as their income has pretty much halted. Even Grouplove mentioned money being very tight with having to cancel this tour. They hand made and screenprinted a bunch of limited edition jumpsuits to sell just to make some extra income. And this is a commercially successful band. I think the demand will be high for fans too, I know a lot of people itching to get back to a concert, any concert. Its also an opportunity for Promowest to have a big payday, IF they book correctly. Obviously the 2020 lineup was a total disaster. Honestly, the pandemic did them a favor. Same for Forecastle honestly. They both put forth pretty weak lineups. Here's to hoping they get it right in 2021.
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